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Mojo
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« on: May 20, 2008, 02:39:15 PM »

One reason of disabling pagefile under xp aside from disk space is to prolonge the life of SD card of the EEE PC.

If thats the case, it means that using XP will prolong the life of our EEE pc as opposed to xandros/Linux where a partition is dedicated as swap partition.

whats your  take on this.
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2008, 05:45:49 AM »

One reason of disabling pagefile under xp aside from disk space is to prolonge the life of SD card of the EEE PC.

If thats the case, it means that using XP will prolong the life of our EEE pc as opposed to xandros/Linux where a partition is dedicated as swap partition.

whats your  take on this.

Hard to say eh....but apparently, xp does more processing on the ssd than linux. Kaya better stay on the safe side. If you're going to go w xp, get bigger ram, and turn off pagefile.
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2008, 06:53:35 AM »

Is it really necessary to get 2GB RAM to disable the pagefile? What I mean is, would 1 GB RAM work as well? Most of what I've read stated that 2 GB is needed if you want to turn the pagefile off.
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2008, 07:22:50 AM »

1GB should be okay. Anything better than stock is actually fine, since for most older systems even 1GB is a lot of ram already. If you experience problems, just turn pagefile back on. But from what I've experienced in installing, 1GB is fine for turning off pagefile when doing regular tasks.
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2008, 08:37:28 AM »

Rupert, Shinrai, when you say turn off pagefile you mean pagefile = 0 right?  Wa kasi akong makitang on/off ng pagefile.  Sorry if this seems to be a soooo newbie question.  Just want to make sure.  Thanks.
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2008, 09:12:38 AM »

san po makikita pagefile? 
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2008, 09:18:52 AM »

san po makikita pagefile? 

Right button click sa My Computer -> Properties -> Advanced -> Performance Settings -> Advanced -> Virtual memory Change ... dito yata.

Thanks TAMS for asking.  I think I found the answer to my question earlier here.  May "No paging file" button pala.
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2008, 09:37:30 AM »

One reason of disabling pagefile under xp aside from disk space is to prolonge the life of SD card of the EEE PC.

If thats the case, it means that using XP will prolong the life of our EEE pc as opposed to xandros/Linux where a partition is dedicated as swap partition.

whats your  take on this.

Hard to say eh....but apparently, xp does more processing on the ssd than linux. Kaya better stay on the safe side. If you're going to go w xp, get bigger ram, and turn off pagefile.


somehow its not a clear choice. xp is a 7 year old OS. basically if you have an nlited xp installation where most of the services are turn off. It its less taxing on the eee pc that your standard xandros OS. where you have a one year old kernel. running/eating  300mb of your physical ram.

IMHO.nlited  Xp is better off with page file turn on. with 512 mb and installing light weight apps like foxit, opera, MS office 2000. Its clearly a better alternative  than the eee pc
 xandros.

But on a cd install/stock XP where a buttload of services are running. Its  a tie or maybe xandros has a little bit of an edge
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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2008, 02:10:57 PM »

Rupert, Shinrai, when you say turn off pagefile you mean pagefile = 0 right?  Wa kasi akong makitang on/off ng pagefile.  Sorry if this seems to be a soooo newbie question.  Just want to make sure.  Thanks.

yes, set pagefile to zero.
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2008, 02:01:47 PM »

I just read http://thepeoplegeek.wordpress.com/2008/04/14/do-not-defrag-your-solid-state-drives/
I'm particularly worried; imagine this is going on in our eeepc's precious main SSD behind our backs. (in background when system is idle)

I wanna stay on the safe side too but won't ditch XP yet for Linux so am gonna try doing this http://discuss.fogcreek.com/joelonsoftware3/default.asp?cmd=show&ixPost=102887, but would it be safe?

Any thoughts?
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2008, 02:32:50 PM »

I just read http://thepeoplegeek.wordpress.com/2008/04/14/do-not-defrag-your-solid-state-drives/
I'm particularly worried; imagine this is going on in our eeepc's precious main SSD behind our backs. (in background when system is idle)

I wanna stay on the safe side too but won't ditch XP yet for Linux so am gonna try doing this http://discuss.fogcreek.com/joelonsoftware3/default.asp?cmd=show&ixPost=102887, but would it be safe?

Any thoughts?

I think there are 3 issues here:
(1) defragging -- just dont do it...since ssd's don't need it.
(2) pagefile -- just set it to zero (if you have 1 or 2 gb of ram)
(3) background defragging (?) -- I'm not sure about this. But I turn off Indexing Service just to be safe.
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2008, 02:33:52 PM »

Super stupid question:
How do we turn off Indexing Service again?  Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2008, 02:47:41 PM »

Super stupid question:
How do we turn off Indexing Service again?  Cheesy

no stupid questions here....no worries Smiley

Turn off Indexing: my computer > right click on drive c > properties > at the bottom of the next screen, there are 2 tick boxes, the bottom most is indexing....un-tick that > it will prompt you for indexing deactivation > it will go through the process > and will prompt to apply to all folders (i think)....just choose "ignore all"...then it will complete the process Smiley

That's it! Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2008, 04:24:44 PM »

More news that spreads FUD on the life cycle of an SSD. I wonder who'd be the first to say "MY SSD CONKED OUT!"
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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2008, 05:20:11 PM »

I don't think Windows defrags your system when idle. It's a terribly resource intensive process which is probably why you need to actually tell it to do it rather than it runs on the background.
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